Fundo UCC lien causing major financing delays - need advice
Having a nightmare with a fundo UCC lien that's blocking our equipment financing deal. We're trying to close on $340k in manufacturing equipment but there's apparently some kind of fundo UCC lien showing up in the search that's preventing our lender from moving forward. The equipment dealer says they've never heard of this type of lien before and our attorney is scratching his head too. The lien search shows it was filed 3 years ago but we can't figure out what it's securing or who filed it. Has anyone dealt with a fundo UCC lien situation before? Our closing is supposed to happen next week and this is holding everything up. The lender won't proceed until we can either get it released or prove it doesn't affect our collateral. Any insight would be hugely appreciated - we're running out of time and options here.
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Dananyl Lear
Never heard of a 'fundo' UCC lien specifically. Are you sure that's the exact terminology showing up in the search results? Sometimes the UCC search systems have weird abbreviations or typos that can be confusing. Can you check the actual filing number and see what the original UCC-1 says for the secured party name?
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Lim Wong
•Just double-checked and yes it definitely says 'fundo' in the search results. The filing number is 2022-0847392. I'm wondering if it's some kind of foreign entity or maybe a misspelling that got through the system.
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Noah huntAce420
•That's really strange. Most UCC systems have pretty good validation for secured party names. You might want to pull the actual UCC-1 document rather than relying on the search summary.
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Ana Rusula
This sounds like it could be a data entry error or some kind of corrupted filing. I've seen similar issues where the secured party name gets garbled in the system. Your best bet is to contact the Secretary of State office directly and have them look up that specific filing number. They can usually tell you what the original document actually says.
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Lim Wong
•Good idea. I'll call them first thing Monday morning. Just hoping they can resolve this quickly since our closing deadline is so tight.
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Fidel Carson
•You might also want to check if this could be related to 'fund' or 'funding' that got truncated somehow. Some older systems had character limits that could cause this kind of thing.
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Isaiah Sanders
•Had a similar issue last year where a secured party name was showing up weird in searches. Turned out to be a database corruption issue and the SOS had to reindex their records. Took about a week to fix.
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Xan Dae
Before you go too far down the rabbit hole, I'd suggest using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the UCC search results and any related documents to cross-check everything automatically. It might catch something that's not obvious from just reading the filings manually. I've used it when dealing with confusing lien situations and it's saved me hours of detective work.
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Lim Wong
•That's interesting - I hadn't heard of that service before. How does it work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?
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Xan Dae
•Yeah exactly, you just upload the PDFs and it automatically cross-references debtor names, filing numbers, collateral descriptions, all that stuff. Really useful for catching inconsistencies or errors that might not be obvious.
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Fiona Gallagher
•I've been hearing about Certana.ai too. Might be worth trying especially with such a tight deadline.
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Thais Soares
This is probably a long shot but could 'fundo' be short for some kind of fund or foundation? Like if it was a nonprofit or investment fund that filed the lien? Just thinking outside the box here since you're running out of time.
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Lim Wong
•That's actually a really good thought. We do have some past relationships with equipment leasing companies and investment funds. I'll dig into our records to see if anything rings a bell.
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Nalani Liu
•Could also be a foreign entity. Some international lenders have names that don't translate well into UCC filing systems.
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Axel Bourke
UGH this is exactly the kind of thing that drives me crazy about UCC filings!!! The systems are so buggy and unreliable. I bet this is just some random database error that's going to cost you thousands in delays while the bureaucrats figure out their own mess. Have you tried demanding they fix it immediately? Sometimes you have to be really aggressive with these government offices.
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Aidan Percy
•I get the frustration but being aggressive with the SOS office usually backfires. They're generally pretty helpful if you approach them professionally.
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Axel Bourke
•Maybe, but when you're dealing with a time-sensitive closing, sometimes you need to escalate quickly. These offices move at their own pace otherwise.
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Fernanda Marquez
•True, but you catch more flies with honey. Most of the clerks at SOS offices are trying to help, they just have limited tools to work with.
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Norman Fraser
Wait a minute - I just remembered something. A few months ago I was dealing with a similar mysterious lien situation and it turned out to be a continuation filing that had the wrong secured party name due to a merger or name change that wasn't properly reflected. Have you checked if this could be related to any UCC-3 amendments or continuations that might have gone wrong?
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Lim Wong
•Hmm, that's another angle I hadn't considered. I'll check for any UCC-3 filings around that same time period. Maybe there was an amendment that got messed up somehow.
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Kendrick Webb
•Yeah definitely worth checking the full filing history. Sometimes there's a chain of amendments that tell the real story.
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Hattie Carson
I'm curious - what state are you filing in? Some states have really quirky systems that are more prone to these kinds of errors. Also, have you tried searching for just part of that filing number to see if there are related filings?
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Lim Wong
•We're in Texas. I haven't tried searching partial filing numbers yet but that's a good idea. The Texas SOS system can be pretty clunky sometimes.
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Destiny Bryant
•Oh Texas! Yeah their system has definitely had some issues over the years. You might want to try searching both the new and legacy systems if they still have both available.
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Dyllan Nantx
•Texas has had some database migration issues in the past. Could be related to that if the timing lines up.
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TillyCombatwarrior
This is a real head-scratcher. I've been doing UCC work for 15 years and I've never come across a 'fundo' lien. My gut says it's either a data corruption issue or possibly a foreign language entity name that got mangled in the system. Given your time constraints, I'd suggest running parallel tracks - contact the SOS office Monday morning while also having your attorney research any possible connection to your business history.
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Lim Wong
•That's good advice about running parallel tracks. We can't afford to waste any time on this. I'll get our attorney started on the historical research while I work the SOS angle.
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Anna Xian
•And definitely keep documenting everything. If this turns out to be a system error, you'll want a paper trail showing your due diligence for the lender.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
Just throwing this out there, but have you considered that this might not actually affect your collateral at all? Even if there is a legitimate lien, it could be securing completely different assets. Your lender might be being overly cautious. Have you had them explain exactly why they think this blocks your deal?
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Lim Wong
•The lender says their policy is to clear any liens on the debtor before proceeding, regardless of what they secure. Pretty standard practice from what I understand.
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Rajan Walker
•That's typical but sometimes you can get them to accept a subordination agreement or non-disturbance letter if the lien is clearly unrelated to your collateral.
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Nadia Zaldivar
•Or even just a detailed explanation of why the lien doesn't conflict. Depends on how flexible the lender is.
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Lukas Fitzgerald
UPDATE: I tried that Certana.ai tool someone mentioned earlier and it flagged some inconsistencies in the debtor name formatting that I hadn't noticed. Turns out there might be multiple entities with similar names in the system. Still working through it but at least now I have a better sense of what I'm dealing with. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Xan Dae
•Glad it helped! That's exactly the kind of thing it's good at catching - the subtle inconsistencies that are easy to miss when you're looking at dozens of documents.
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Ev Luca
•That's great news! Hopefully that leads you to a quick resolution. Keep us posted on how it turns out.
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Avery Davis
•Interesting - I might need to check that tool out for some of my own filing issues.
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NightOwl42
This is such a frustrating situation! I've dealt with similar mysterious UCC filings before and they're always a nightmare to resolve under time pressure. One thing that might help while you're waiting to hear back from the SOS office - have you tried reaching out directly to any UCC search companies or attorneys who specialize in lien research? Sometimes they have access to historical databases or know tricks for tracking down these weird filings that regular practitioners don't. Also, if you haven't already, make sure your lender understands this appears to be a system error rather than a legitimate encumbrance issue. Some lenders will work with you on extended deadlines if they understand the situation is beyond your control. Fingers crossed the Certana.ai findings lead to a quick resolution!
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Felicity Bud
•That's really solid advice about reaching out to specialized UCC research firms. I hadn't thought about that angle but it makes total sense - they probably see these weird edge cases more often than the rest of us. Do you have any specific companies you'd recommend for this kind of detective work? Also good point about keeping the lender in the loop about this being a potential system error rather than a real lien issue. Communication is key when deadlines are tight.
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Yara Nassar
This sounds incredibly frustrating, especially with such a tight deadline! I've been following the thread and it seems like you're getting some really good suggestions. The fact that Certana.ai flagged debtor name inconsistencies is promising - that could definitely be the key to unraveling this mystery. One additional thought: if this does turn out to be a legitimate lien from an entity with an unusual name, you might want to ask your attorney about the possibility of getting a priority agreement or partial release if the collateral doesn't overlap with your equipment. Sometimes secured parties are willing to work with you if it doesn't affect their position. Also, document everything you're doing to resolve this - the time stamps, who you talked to, what steps you took. If this causes a delay in your closing, having a detailed record could help with any potential claims or at least show your lender you've been diligent. Hope you get this sorted out quickly!
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AstroAdventurer
•This is such great comprehensive advice! I'm impressed by how thorough this community is being with suggestions. The documentation point is especially important - I've seen too many deals fall apart because someone couldn't prove they did due diligence when mysterious liens popped up. Also really like the idea about partial releases or priority agreements. Even if this 'fundo' thing is legitimate, there might be room to negotiate around it if the collateral is different. @Yara Nassar do you have experience with secured parties being cooperative in these situations? I m'still pretty new to complex UCC issues and wondering how often parties are willing to work with you on stuff like this.
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Lena Kowalski
This whole situation sounds incredibly stressful, but I'm encouraged by all the creative suggestions everyone's offering! As someone relatively new to UCC issues, I'm learning a lot just from reading this thread. The Certana.ai tool sounds particularly interesting - I had no idea automated document verification services existed for this kind of thing. One thought that occurred to me while reading through everything: have you checked if your business or any related entities might have had dealings with a company that could have been abbreviated or misspelled as "fundo"? Sometimes these mysterious liens turn out to be from routine business relationships that just got garbled in the filing system. Maybe check old invoices, contracts, or equipment leases from around 2022 for anything that might ring a bell? Also, with Texas specifically, I've heard their UCC system went through some major updates a few years back - could this be related to data migration issues during that transition? Really hoping you get this resolved before your closing deadline!
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Caden Turner
•This is such a helpful thread to follow as someone also new to UCC complexities! Your suggestion about checking old business relationships is really smart - I've seen similar situations where routine equipment leasing or factoring agreements created liens that later showed up with mangled names in the system. The Texas system migration angle is particularly interesting too. I remember reading about some states having issues when they upgraded their databases and old records didn't transfer cleanly. @Lena Kowalski do you know roughly when Texas did their system updates? That timing could be really relevant if this filing was around 2022. Also wondering if @Lim Wong has had a chance to dig into those historical records yet - sometimes the answer is hiding in plain sight in old paperwork we forgot about!
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