Why minimal Pell Grant with 0$ EFC? Penn State summer bill confusion
Just received my son's Penn State main campus summer bill and I'm completely confused. We have a 0$ EFC on our 23-24 FAFSA, but he only received less than $1000 in Pell Grant money and absolutely no state grant for summer. During the regular academic year, his aid package was much more substantial. Is summer financial aid calculated differently? Has anyone else experienced this drastic reduction for summer terms? I was expecting his summer aid to be proportional to what he received during the regular school year, especially with our 0 EFC. Any insights would be greatly appreciated!
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Jessica Nguyen
summer terms r always weird with financial aid. my daughter got like half her normal aid for summer at PSU last yr. something about credit hours + they calculate it different
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Cameron Black
•Thanks for sharing that. Do you know if they have a minimum credit requirement for full Pell during summer? My son is taking 6 credits.
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Isaiah Thompson
Summer financial aid works differently than the regular academic year. Here's what's happening: 1. Pell Grants for summer are part of what's called "Year-Round Pell" - but students can only receive up to 150% of their regular Pell award across fall, spring, AND summer combined. 2. If your son already used his full Pell eligibility during fall/spring, he'd only be eligible for the remainder up to that 150% cap for summer. 3. For Pennsylvania State Grant, many state grants don't apply to summer terms at all or have specific summer requirements. 4. Credit requirements matter - for full summer Pell eligibility, students typically need at least 6 credits, but the amount is prorated based on enrollment. I'd recommend calling Penn State's financial aid office directly to get a breakdown of how they calculated his summer aid. They should be able to explain exactly why it's so much lower than expected.
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Ruby Garcia
•this is right!!! my daughter had this EXACT problem at temple. they told us the pell is 150% max for the whole year including summer. she already got most of hers in fall/spring so summer was tiny
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Alexander Evans
Ugh, the financial aid system is such a JOKE! They dangle this "0 EFC" in front of families like it means something, then hit you with these random rules about summer terms that NOBODY tells you about until after you're enrolled. I had the same issue with my kid at Pitt - 0 EFC, barely any summer aid. When I called, they just gave me the runaround about "different funding periods" and "limited summer allocations." Try calling Penn State financial aid, but prepare to be on hold FOREVER and potentially get disconnected multiple times. The whole system is designed to wear you down until you just give up and take out more loans. I'm so sick of it.
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Cameron Black
•That's exactly how I'm feeling right now - like we were misled about what 0 EFC actually means in practice. I've tried calling Penn State's financial aid office twice already and couldn't get through to anyone who could actually explain the calculation.
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Evelyn Martinez
I was in this exact situation last year with my daughter at Penn State. After HOURS of trying to reach someone at the financial aid office and getting disconnected multiple times, I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me through to a live person in about 10 minutes. They have a good video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ Once I finally talked to someone, they explained that summer Pell is limited if your student already received full Pell for fall/spring. Also, PA State Grant rarely covers summer sessions - it's a separate application process with earlier deadlines than the regular terms. Definitely worth getting a person on the phone who can look at your son's specific account and explain exactly what happened.
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Benjamin Carter
•I can second this. I tried calling PSU financial aid for a week straight before using that service. Saved me hours of frustration!
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Isaiah Thompson
To directly answer your question about summer Pell Grant and 0 EFC: 1. For Summer 2024, the max additional Pell (beyond regular academic year) is around $3,750 for students with 0 EFC 2. BUT - and this is crucial - that's only if your son: • Didn't use full Pell eligibility in fall/spring • Is enrolled at least half-time (6+ credits) in summer • Hasn't exceeded lifetime Pell eligibility limits 3. For PA State Grant, your son would have needed to complete a separate summer application by the March 1st deadline The $1000 you're seeing could be proportional to his credits (if taking fewer than 12) and adjusted for remaining eligibility. I recommend requesting an itemized breakdown of his aid calculation from Penn State.
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Cameron Black
•Thank you so much for that detailed explanation. I didn't realize there was a separate summer application for the PA State Grant with such an early deadline - that explains why he didn't get any state funding. And you're right about the credits - he's only taking 6 for summer, which is likely why the Pell amount is reduced. This makes much more sense now.
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Ruby Garcia
my niece goes to penn state and she said a lot of people dont know that u can appeal for more summer aid. but you gotta do it quick b4 the term starts!!!! did u try that??
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Maya Lewis
•appeals rarely work for summer terms tho. i filed one last yr and was denied cuz they said summer funding is already "maxed out" whatever that means 🙄
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Benjamin Carter
One important detail no one has mentioned: Your 23-24 FAFSA technically covers Fall 2023, Spring 2024, and Summer 2024. If your son received full Pell for Fall and Spring, that would explain the reduced summer amount (hitting that 150% cap others mentioned). For the upcoming 2024-2025 academic year, make sure you've completed the new FAFSA (the simplified one that just launched). If you maintain a 0 SAI (formerly EFC), your son should be eligible for maximum Pell Grant amounts for the regular terms. And definitely check with Penn State about possible summer scholarship options - many schools have specific funds just for summer study that aren't automatically applied.
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Cameron Black
•Yes, we did fill out the new FAFSA for 24-25 but it was quite a struggle with all the system issues. We still have a 0 SAI so hopefully the fall and spring will have better aid packages. I'll ask specifically about summer scholarships - didn't know those existed. Thanks!
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