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Mason Lopez

SAI differences between siblings in FAFSA 2025-2026: Where did the 350-point gap come from?

I'm so confused about the SAI differences between my kids' FAFSA results. We submitted both applications on 2/15/25 (college sophomore and incoming freshman). Got sophomore's results on 3/27/25 and freshman's on 4/3/25. They're both attending public universities with only about $1,300 difference in annual costs. Here's what's weird: - Sophomore's SAI is 350 points LOWER than freshman's - Sophomore eligible for $7,500 direct loans, freshman only $5,500 - Both "might" qualify for work study (whatever that means) - Neither got Pell grants Is this normal? I thought with similar schools and both being dependents on the same family FAFSA, they'd get similar results. Could the difference be because one has a small internship savings account ($3,200) and the other doesn't? Or is it because one's a sophomore and one's a freshman? Nothing was flagged for verification or errors. The whole system feels so random!

The loan difference is completely normal - it's based on year in school. First-year students can get up to $5,500 in Direct Loans, second-year students get $6,500, and third-year and beyond get $7,500. That's standard across all schools. The SAI difference is more interesting though. A 350-point gap could come from a few factors: 1. The internship savings you mentioned - student assets are weighted more heavily in the formula 2. If one child has any income from work, that gets counted differently 3. Sometimes the order you listed dependents in the FAFSA can affect calculations It's also worth noting that for the 2025-2026 application, they're using your 2023 tax information, so if your circumstances have changed significantly since then, you might want to contact the financial aid offices directly.

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Thank you so much for explaining the loan differences! That makes perfect sense now. I had no idea it was based on year in school. I'm still confused about the SAI though... we did list the kids in different orders (alphabetically by first name), so maybe that caused it? The savings account is in the freshman's name though, so wouldn't that make the freshman's SAI higher, not lower? This system is so confusing!

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why would u even care about 350 points difference??? that's nothing lol. my brothers SAI was like 2000 points higher than mine and we didnt even question it. just be happy neither of them got flagged for verification thats the real headache trust me

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I guess you're right that 350 points isn't huge in the grand scheme of things. I'm just trying to understand the system better since we'll be doing this for several more years. And yes, definitely grateful to avoid verification - I've heard horror stories!

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What you're seeing with the 350-point SAI difference is actually quite common with siblings. The FAFSA formula looks at household size and number of college students, but it doesn't treat all dependents identically. When I worked in a financial aid office, we saw this constantly. The primary factors that could cause this difference are: - Age differences (older students have different income protection allowances) - Student income differences (even small amounts can significantly impact SAI) - Asset distribution (as you noted with the savings account) - Merit scholarships or institutional aid can affect SAI calculations indirectly For work-study, "may be eligible" is standard language. Each school has a limited pool of work-study funds, so they can't guarantee it to everyone who qualifies by SAI.

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This is WRONG. SAI calculations are supposed to be the SAME for siblings from the same household with the same parental information. It's literally in the formula!!! The only thing that should cause differences is student income/assets. The system is just broken like everything else about FAFSA this year.

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You're partially correct, but there are actually several variables in the formula that can differ between siblings even with identical parental information. Age-related allowances differ, and the household size calculation can be applied differently based on the student's specific circumstances. The formula has multiple components, and while the parent contribution portion may be similar, the student contribution can vary significantly. The 2025-2026 FAFSA uses a different methodology than previous years, which has introduced additional variability.

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When I had a similar issue (700 point difference between my twins), I spent 4 DAYS trying to reach someone at Federal Student Aid. Kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally, I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) and got connected to an agent in 15 minutes. They explained that the SAI difference was due to how they calculated my twins' summer job income - one worked more hours than the other. They even helped me submit a correction that lowered both SAIs by about 200 points! You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ

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I hadn't heard of this service before! I've been trying to call FSA for days with no luck. I'll check this out since I really want to understand what's causing the difference. Thanks for sharing your experience - especially good to know about the summer job income affecting things. My sophomore did work more hours last summer!

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these services shouldnt even NEED to exist!! why cant the government just hire enough people to answer their own phones?? this whole system is a scam designed to confuse parents and students

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I don't mean to alarm you, but you should double-check if either application got selected for verification. Sometimes there's no obvious flag on the SAR. I've seen cases where the SAI difference between siblings triggered automatic verification for one of them. Log into studentaid.gov and look for any messages or download the full SAR pdf to check. Also, did both kids answer all the questions identically? Sometimes tiny differences in how questions about household size, marital status, or even addresses can cause unexpected calculation differences. P.S. The loan amounts are normal - they increase by year in school. Freshman = $5,500, Sophomore = $6,500, Junior/Senior = $7,500.

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Omg now I'm paranoid! I just double-checked both applications again and don't see any verification notices, but I'll download the full SAR pdfs tonight to be sure. We filled out both applications at the same time sitting together at the kitchen table, so the answers should be identical except for their personal information. Thanks for the loan explanation - several people have mentioned that now so I feel silly for not knowing it was based on year in school.

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the diffrence is probably becuz of their ages. my sister n me had like 500 point difference and the fin aid office said it was becuz of the age allowance thing in the formula. older students get more protection for their income or somethng?? idk exactly how it works but thats what they told us lol. also the loan amounts always go up each year ur in school thats just how it works

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You're exactly right about the age allowance. The Income Protection Allowance increases with the student's age, which means older students can earn more income before it negatively impacts their SAI. For the 2025-2026 FAFSA, students who are 20+ by December 31, 2025, receive a higher protection allowance than younger students. This could easily account for a 350-point difference if one student is 19 and the other is 20+.

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I went through something similar with my twins and just about lost my mind trying to figure it out!!! It ended up being that one of them had a birthday that put them in a different age bracket for the calculations. Apparently for 2025-2026 FAFSA, if your student turns 20 before December 31, 2025, they get a higher income protection allowance than if they're still 19 or younger. Could your sophomore be turning 20 this year while your freshman is still 18/19? That could explain the 350 point difference almost exactly!

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YES! You are a genius! My sophomore turns 20 in October 2025, and my freshman will still be 19. That must be it! I had no idea there were age brackets in the formula. Thank you so much - this has been driving me crazy. I wish they would explain these things clearly on the FAFSA site instead of making us figure it out through forums.

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Now that I'm seeing the age explanation, that makes perfect sense. Just to give you some numbers for reference: for the 2025-2026 FAFSA, the Income Protection Allowance for dependent students aged <20 is $7,130, while for students aged 20+ it's $8,890. That $1,760 difference in protection allowance could easily translate to about a 350-point SAI difference. As for the work study, that language is intentionally vague because schools don't want to promise funds they might not have. Each institution receives a limited Federal Work Study allocation, and they have to prioritize students based on need and application date.

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Thank you for the specific numbers! That explains it perfectly. I feel so much better understanding where the difference comes from. The system makes more sense now, even if the communication about it doesn't. I appreciate everyone's help figuring this out!

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I'm glad you were able to figure out the age allowance issue! As a newcomer to this process, I'm learning so much from reading through these discussions. It's really helpful to see how the Income Protection Allowance works differently for different age brackets. I have twins who will both be applying for FAFSA next year, and they'll be 18 and 19 respectively, so this information is super valuable. One question though - does anyone know if there are other age-related thresholds in the formula beyond the 20-year cutoff? I want to make sure I understand all the factors that could cause differences between my kids' applications when the time comes. Also, completely agree that the FAFSA website should explain these details more clearly instead of leaving families to figure it out through trial and error!

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Welcome to the FAFSA maze! Your twins being 18 and 19 should actually work in your favor - they'll likely fall into the same age bracket for the Income Protection Allowance, so you shouldn't see the kind of difference that confused me so much. From what I've learned through this whole ordeal, the main age threshold seems to be that 20-year cutoff for dependent students. I haven't seen anyone mention other age brackets, but honestly, who knows what other surprises are buried in that formula! My advice: when you fill out their applications, do them at the same time like we did, and keep detailed notes about any differences in their situations (jobs, savings accounts, etc.) so you'll know what might cause SAI differences. And definitely bookmark this forum - the people here know way more than the official FAFSA help resources! Good luck with your applications next year!

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As someone new to navigating FAFSA with multiple kids, this thread has been incredibly educational! I have two children who will be applying in the next couple of years, and I had no idea about the age-based Income Protection Allowance differences. The fact that a student turning 20 before December 31st gets a higher protection allowance ($8,890 vs $7,130) is such a crucial detail that isn't clearly explained anywhere on the official FAFSA materials. It's frustrating that families have to piece together this information through forums and trial and error. I'm curious - are there any other "hidden" factors in the SAI calculation that families should be aware of? Things like the order you list dependents, timing of when you submit applications, or other variables that might not be obvious but could impact results? It seems like there are so many nuances to this system that aren't well documented. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and knowledge here - it's invaluable for those of us still figuring this out!

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Welcome to the FAFSA learning curve! You're asking all the right questions. From what I've gathered through this discussion and my own research, here are a few other factors to watch out for: 1. Student income timing - even small amounts of summer job income can have outsized impacts on SAI 2. How you report student assets vs. parent assets - the weighting is very different 3. State residency questions - make sure both kids answer consistently about where they live/plan to live 4. Dependency status verification - any inconsistencies in how household size is reported One thing that really surprised me is how the savings account in my freshman's name actually worked against them more than I expected. Student assets are assessed at 20% vs parent assets at around 5.6%, so even that $3,200 savings account could have added about $640 to the SAI. The order of listing dependents thing is still a mystery to me - some people swear it matters, others say it doesn't. I'd love to hear from anyone who has definitive information on that! This community has been a lifesaver for understanding all these nuances that the official resources just don't explain clearly.

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As a newcomer to this whole FAFSA process, I'm amazed by how much valuable information is packed into this thread! I have one child who will be a college freshman next year, and I had absolutely no idea about things like the age-based Income Protection Allowance differences or how student vs. parent assets are weighted so differently. The fact that Mason's mystery was solved through the collective knowledge of this community really shows how inadequate the official FAFSA resources are for explaining these nuances. It's concerning that families have to become detectives to understand why their aid calculations come out the way they do. I'm taking notes on everything mentioned here - the 20-year age cutoff, the different loan amounts by year in school, the 20% vs 5.6% asset assessment rates. This is the kind of practical information that should be front and center on the FAFSA website, not buried in formulas that require a finance degree to decipher. Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise. This thread should be required reading for anyone navigating FAFSA with multiple children!

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I completely agree - this thread has been like a masterclass in FAFSA that I never knew I needed! As someone just starting this journey with my first college-bound kid, I'm both grateful for all this insider knowledge and frustrated that it's so hard to find elsewhere. The community detective work that solved Mason's mystery really highlights how opaque this whole system is. I've been bookmarking every helpful resource mentioned here, including that Claimyr service Oliver mentioned for actually getting through to someone at Federal Student Aid. One thing I'm wondering about - since you mentioned taking notes on all these factors, have you found any good resources or tools for tracking all these variables when it comes time to fill out the actual application? It seems like having a checklist of things to double-check (age cutoffs, asset reporting, income timing, etc.) would be really helpful to avoid surprises later. Thanks again to everyone who's shared their hard-won wisdom here. It's making me feel much more prepared and confident about tackling this process!

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As someone completely new to FAFSA and just starting to research the process for my upcoming college-bound senior, this entire thread has been absolutely eye-opening! I had no idea there were so many hidden variables that could affect aid calculations between siblings. The age-based Income Protection Allowance difference that solved Mason's mystery is something I never would have thought to look for. It's incredibly helpful to know that students turning 20 before December 31st get that higher protection allowance ($8,890 vs $7,130). My daughter will still be 18 when we apply, so at least I don't have to worry about that particular variable. What really strikes me is how this community was able to solve in a few hours what would probably take days of trying to reach Federal Student Aid directly. The collective knowledge here is amazing - from Vera explaining the loan year differences to Brielle providing the technical details about the formula variations. I'm definitely bookmarking this thread and starting a FAFSA prep document with all these insights. Things like the 20% student asset assessment vs 5.6% parent asset assessment, the timing of student income reporting, and even potential issues with the order of listing dependents are all details I would never have known to consider. Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences and helping decode this incredibly complex system!

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Welcome to the FAFSA learning community! It's great to see more newcomers joining and benefiting from all the shared wisdom here. You're definitely starting your research at the right time - being prepared ahead of your daughter's senior year will make the whole process much smoother. One thing I'd add to your prep document is to keep track of any changes in your financial situation between when you file taxes (which FAFSA uses) and when you actually submit the application. Sometimes there are provisions for updating information if your circumstances have changed significantly, but knowing what's different can help you anticipate any surprises in the calculations. Also, since your daughter will be 18, you might want to research whether her state has any additional aid programs that have different age or timing requirements. Some state grants have earlier deadlines or different eligibility criteria that could complement the federal aid. The collaborative problem-solving in this thread really shows how valuable peer support is in navigating these complex systems. I'm glad you found it helpful, and I'm sure your proactive approach will serve you well when application time comes!

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