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Planning ahead for FAFSA as parents of 8th grader - high income strategies?

We've just started thinking about college for our 8th grader and I'm freaking out about FAFSA and financial aid. Our household income is in the $200-300K range (both W-2 employees with not much flexibility), and I keep hearing horror stories about the "too rich for aid, too poor for full tuition" trap. What should we be doing NOW to maximize potential aid in 4 years when FAFSA time comes? Are there strategic moves with retirement accounts, home equity, or college savings? Any tips from parents who've been through this with high-income situations? What resources or books should I be looking at? Feeling completely overwhelmed by all this!

Start by understanding how FAFSA calculates Student Aid Index (SAI). At your income level, focus on merit scholarships rather than need-based aid. The most important things you can do now: 1. Max out retirement accounts (FAFSA doesn't count these) 2. Pay down consumer debt 3. If buying big assets, do it before sophomore year of high school 4. Have your student focus on academics/test scores for merit aid 5. Research schools that offer good merit packages even without exceptional stats The 529 plans will count as parental assets (only assessed at about 5.64%), so don't avoid them. They're still beneficial for tax-free growth.

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Thank you! I wasn't sure about the 529s - someone told us not to bother since we'd get no aid anyway. But the merit scholarship angle makes sense. Do you have specific resources for finding schools with good merit packages?

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lol at thinking u'll get any aid at $300k... the system is designed to EXTRACT money from families like yours not GIVE it to u

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Yeah, I realize we won't qualify for need-based aid. I'm more curious about strategies to maximize merit scholarships and minimize what we'll pay overall.

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This isn't helpful. Many schools offer significant merit aid regardless of income level. My daughter got $25K/year at a private university despite our income being similar to OP's. It's about finding the right schools and positioning your student competitively.

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The most valuable thing I wish I'd known with my older kids (now finishing college) was to start researching schools' actual pricing models EARLY. The sticker price means nothing. Some resources that helped us: * "The Price You Pay for College" by Ron Lieber * College Data website for seeing actual scholarship data * "Debt-Free Degree" by Anthony ONeal For your income level, focus on schools where your student might be in the top 25% academically - they'll offer better merit packages to attract strong students. Look at schools' Common Data Sets (Google the school name + "common data set") to see what percentage of students get merit aid and how much. Start visiting colleges sophomore year, not just senior year when it's too late.

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Thank you for these specific resources! The Common Data Set tip sounds especially useful. Did you find private schools were more generous with merit aid than public universities?

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Generally, yes. Private colleges have more institutional aid to offer. Many public universities have limited merit packages, especially flagships. Look at private schools where your child would be in the top quarter of applicants - they often discount heavily to attract strong students. My son got a $27K/year merit scholarship from a $60K/year private university but only $5K from our state flagship.

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OMG the FAFSA is THE WORST!!! Just went through this with my oldest and despite making "too much" on paper we got ZERO help. Make sure your kid applies to safety schools that give automatic scholarships based on GPA/test scores. Many state schools publish these formulas right on their websites! Also make sure to check if grandparents are planning to help - TIMING OF GIFTS MATTERS!!! Grandparent 529 distributions used to count as student income (bad) but I think this changed with the new FAFSA? Anyone know for sure???

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Yes, this changed with the new FAFSA. Grandparent-owned 529 plans no longer impact aid eligibility at all. They removed the question about cash support from the form. This is one of the few positive changes in the new FAFSA.

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My daughter just started college this year and I wish I had known about the CSS Profile earlier. While FAFSA is for federal aid and most public schools, many private colleges require the CSS Profile too, which asks MUCH more detailed financial questions. They'll ask about home equity, business assets, etc. that FAFSA doesn't consider. Start researching the specific requirements for target schools early.

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I've heard the CSS Profile is much more invasive. Does it still matter as much for merit aid, or is that primarily for need-based?

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It varies by school. Some use CSS data to determine merit aid eligibility too, especially if they offer "preferential packaging" where they give better aid to students they really want. But generally, pure merit scholarships focus more on academics, leadership, etc. than financial details.

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Financial aid consultant here. For families in your income bracket, focus on these strategies: 1. Asset positioning matters. Before FAFSA filing year (sophomore spring), consider using available cash to: - Pay down mortgage/debt - Make major planned purchases - Max out retirement contributions 2. Business owners have more flexibility than W-2 earners, but you can still optimize by timing any bonuses or deferred compensation. 3. Have your student look at honors colleges at state universities - often significantly cheaper than private schools but with similar small classes and opportunities. 4. Consider schools that compete for students from your region. Colleges often offer better packages to diversify their geographic representation. The book "Never Pay Retail for College" by Beth Walker is specifically good for higher-income families.

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Do these strategies still work with the new FAFSA?? I heard they completely changed the formula!!

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Yes, most still apply. The new formula (Student Aid Index instead of EFC) still doesn't count retirement assets and still assesses parent assets at about 5.64%. The biggest change is they no longer offer a discount for having multiple children in college simultaneously, which hurts families with overlapping college years.

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I tried calling Federal Student Aid to ask about planning strategies and sat on hold for HOURS before giving up. Then I found Claimyr (claimyr.com) which got me through to an actual human in minutes. Their video demo shows how it works: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ They connected me directly to an FSA agent who explained some nuances about how assets are counted. Definitely worth it for getting accurate info rather than relying on rumors or outdated advice. The agent confirmed that for higher-income families, focusing on schools with generous merit aid is definitely the way to go.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll check out that service. I've heard the official FSA info is often clearer than what you find online.

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One strategy specific to your situation: Consider having your 8th grader focus on areas where colleges offer premium scholarships. Many schools have special merit programs for specific majors they're trying to grow (often STEM, foreign languages, or specific arts programs). Even if they change majors later, getting in the door with a big scholarship can be valuable. Also, look at Western Undergraduate Exchange (WUE) schools if you're in the west, or similar regional exchanges in other areas. They offer reduced tuition to out-of-state students, sometimes up to 150% of in-state rates rather than full out-of-state costs.

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The major-specific scholarship angle is interesting - hadn't thought of that approach. My daughter is showing strong interest in engineering, which I hear can have good scholarship opportunities.

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Engineering is excellent for scholarships! Many schools are trying to increase female representation in engineering programs especially. Have her look into summer engineering programs for high schoolers too - they build her profile AND some lead directly to scholarship opportunities.

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my sister works in financial aid office and she says rich parents always try these "hacks" but the schools know ALL the tricks lol... just save ur money and accept ur gonna pay full price

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This isn't about "tricks" - it's about understanding how the system works and making informed decisions. For example, money in retirement accounts isn't assessed by FAFSA, which isn't a trick but a feature of the system. Similarly, understanding which schools offer merit aid based on academics rather than need is just smart planning.

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One more thing - create a college spreadsheet NOW in 8th grade. Track potential schools with these columns: - Sticker price (tuition, room, board, fees) - Average merit award for students with your child's academic profile - Special scholarship programs they offer - Net price calculator results - Application requirements and deadlines This helps avoid senior year panic and makes it easier to compare options. You'd be surprised how many "expensive" private schools end up cheaper than state options once merit aid is applied. Oh, and have your student take the PSAT seriously in 11th grade - National Merit status can trigger big scholarships!

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Love the spreadsheet idea - we're a spreadsheet family! 😊 I hadn't realized PSAT could lead to scholarships, I'll make sure she prepares for that. This is all such helpful advice, thank you!

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As someone who just went through this process with twins (both now college sophomores), I can't emphasize enough how much the landscape has changed even in the last few years. A few things I wish I'd known earlier: 1. Don't overlook regional private colleges - they often have more flexibility with merit aid than big-name schools. My daughter got a better package from a smaller liberal arts college than from our state flagship. 2. Consider the "demonstrated interest" factor. Some schools track whether you've visited, attended virtual sessions, or engaged with admissions. This can impact merit aid decisions. 3. Look into Presidential/Chancellor scholarships at target schools - these are often full or near-full rides based on academics and leadership, not financial need. 4. Start building the "whole student" profile now - colleges want well-rounded applicants for their top merit scholarships. Community service, leadership positions, and unique experiences matter as much as grades. The stress is real, but starting early like you are puts you way ahead of most families! Focus on building your daughter's academic profile while researching schools that align with both her interests and your financial strategy.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The "demonstrated interest" point is something I hadn't considered at all. How early should we start showing interest - is 8th grade too early, or should we wait until high school? And do you have any specific examples of what kinds of community service or leadership activities made the biggest difference for your twins when it came to merit scholarships?

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The demonstrated interest tracking is fascinating - I had no idea schools were doing this! For your twins, did you find that certain types of engagement (campus visits vs. virtual sessions) carried more weight? And with starting in 8th grade, I'm wondering if we should begin with general college exploration or wait until we have a clearer sense of her academic interests and potential major areas.

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