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Brooklyn Knight

Negative SAI of -834 on my FAFSA - what does this actually mean for aid?

I just got my FAFSA results back with an SAI of -834 and I'm confused. I thought scores were usually positive numbers? Does negative mean I qualify for more aid or is this some kind of error? My parents make about $53,000 combined and I have two siblings also in college. When I try to research what negative SAI means, I get conflicting information. Can someone explain what a -834 SAI actually translates to in terms of the financial aid I might receive? Would really appreciate any insight because I need to make decisions soon!

Owen Devar

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A negative SAI is actually good news! The SAI (Student Aid Index) measures your family's financial strength, and a negative number like -834 means you have high financial need. The lower your SAI, the more aid you're eligible for. Since yours is negative, you'll likely qualify for the maximum Pell Grant amount ($7,395 for 2025-2026) and potentially more institutional aid depending on the schools you're applying to. The fact that you have siblings in college is probably why your number is negative - that significantly reduces your family's expected contribution.

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Thank you so much! That makes me feel better. Do all schools interpret the negative SAI the same way? Or will some still expect me to pay something even with a negative number?

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Daniel Rivera

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I got something similar last year! Negative means MORE money usually. Our family was around 59k and I had a -1200 something. Got full Pell and most of my tuition covered at state school.

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That's really encouraging to hear! Did you have to do anything special to get the full coverage or did it just happen automatically?

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Daniel Rivera

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nope just submitted FAFSA and they sent an aid package. but APPLY EARLY!!! my roommate waited and got less money even w/ similar SAI

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I deal with this question a lot as a financial aid counselor. A negative SAI of -834 indicates very high financial need, which is a good thing for aid purposes. But it's important to understand a few key points: 1. You're almost certainly eligible for the maximum Pell Grant 2. Each school has its own formula for institutional aid beyond federal programs 3. Having multiple siblings in college is heavily factored into your SAI calculation 4. The negative number is essentially treated as zero in most calculations One critical thing to note is that your SAI doesn't automatically translate to a specific aid package. Each school has different resources and aid policies. I'd recommend contacting the financial aid offices at your top choice schools with your SAI information to get estimates of your actual aid packages.

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Connor Rupert

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Does the SAI replace the old EFC? I'm so confused with all these different things they keep changing!!

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Yes, the Student Aid Index (SAI) replaced the Expected Family Contribution (EFC) in the 2024-2025 FAFSA simplification. They serve similar purposes but the SAI calculation was revised to better reflect a family's ability to pay for college. The name change also clarifies that it's an eligibility index for aid rather than what a family is expected to pay.

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Molly Hansen

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dont get 2 excited, my SAI was -1240 and i still had to take out loans. the SAI is just 1 part of how they decide aid. my school still had me paying like $6000 a year after "grants" which is BS cause my family makes like no $$$

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Brady Clean

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This is so true! The whole system is designed to trick you. They show you a negative number like you'll get tons of aid, then BAM - still stuck with massive bills. The FAFSA is just a game they play to make you think the system works fairly. My daughter had a negative SAI too and we're still drowning in Parent PLUS loans. It's all smoke and mirrors!

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While I understand the frustration, there's an important distinction to make. The SAI determines federal aid eligibility (like Pell Grants), but each institution has its own budget constraints and aid policies. Public universities often can't meet 100% of demonstrated need, while some private schools with large endowments can. That's why the same SAI can result in different out-of-pocket costs depending on where you attend.

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Skylar Neal

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Trying to get answers about your FAFSA results from the Federal Student Aid phone line is almost impossible these days with how backed up they are. I was trying to understand my daughter's SAI calculation for weeks. I finally used Claimyr.com to get through to an actual agent without the endless hold times - they got me connected in under 15 minutes when I'd been trying for days. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ that shows how it works. The agent explained that negative SAI numbers are actually good and helped us understand exactly what aid we'd qualify for. Totally worth it to actually talk to someone who could explain everything clearly.

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Thanks for the tip! I've been trying to get through on the phone too with no luck. I'll check that out - I really need to speak with someone who can explain what schools will do with my negative SAI.

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Connor Rupert

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I think -834 means ur poor lol

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Brady Clean

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Wow, super helpful 🙄 Maybe try being less judgmental? Lots of hard-working families qualify for financial aid.

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Owen Devar

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To follow up on my earlier comment - since you mentioned you have siblings in college, that's a key factor in your negative SAI. The FAFSA now divides the parent contribution portion by the number of family members in college. With your family income around $53,000 and multiple students, that's why you're seeing a negative number. Regarding your question about how schools interpret this: Federal aid like Pell Grants will be consistent across schools, but institutional aid varies widely. Some schools meet 100% of demonstrated need, others only a portion. Private schools often have more aid resources than public ones, so don't rule them out based on sticker price alone. I'd recommend creating a spreadsheet to compare offers once you receive them.

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This is super helpful, thank you! I'll definitely create that spreadsheet to compare. Is there anything specific I should do when I submit my FAFSA to other schools to make sure they understand my situation with the negative SAI?

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Owen Devar

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Your negative SAI will automatically be sent to all the schools you listed on your FAFSA. However, if there are special circumstances that affected your family finances that aren't reflected in the FAFSA (medical expenses, job loss, etc.), you should contact each school's financial aid office directly about their professional judgment process. Each school handles these requests differently, so reach out to them individually.

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My niece had a negative SAI last year and still ended up with enough financial aid to cover her entire tuition at State University! But my son had a slightly positive SAI and got almost nothing. The whole system is confusing. I think the negative number definitely helps though. Good luck!

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Skylar Neal

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The difference between slightly positive and negative SAI can be significant for Pell Grant eligibility. For 2025-2026, the maximum Pell-eligible SAI is $6,656, but students with SAIs below zero typically qualify for the maximum amount ($7,395). A small numerical difference can sometimes mean thousands in grant funding.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful responses! I feel much better knowing that my negative SAI is actually a good thing. I'm going to reach out to my top schools as suggested to get a better idea of my potential aid packages. It seems like I'll definitely qualify for the maximum Pell Grant, which is amazing news. I appreciate all the insights and personal experiences shared here - it's made this whole process much less stressful!

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Glad we could help! One last tip: when comparing aid packages, look carefully at the breakdown between grants (free money) and loans. Some schools make their packages look generous by including large loan amounts. Focus on your actual out-of-pocket cost after grants and scholarships. Best of luck with your college journey!

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JacksonHarris

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Hey Brooklyn! As someone who works in college admissions, I wanted to add that your negative SAI of -834 is actually fantastic news for financial aid eligibility. With your family income and multiple siblings in college, you're positioned well for significant aid. One thing I'd suggest is also looking into state grant programs - many states have additional need-based grants that stack on top of federal Pell Grants. Also, don't forget to submit your FAFSA to your state's financial aid agency if required. Some students miss out on thousands in state aid just because they didn't complete that extra step. Your negative SAI should make you eligible for maximum awards from most state programs too!

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This is really helpful advice about state grants! I had no idea there were additional programs beyond federal aid. Do you know if there's a specific deadline for state grant applications, or does it typically follow the same timeline as FAFSA? I want to make sure I don't miss out on any opportunities, especially with my negative SAI potentially qualifying me for maximum awards. Thanks for mentioning this - I'll definitely look into my state's programs right away!

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Aiden Chen

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Having gone through this exact situation with my daughter last year, I wanted to share some practical next steps for you, Brooklyn! Your negative SAI of -834 is indeed excellent news - it means you'll qualify for maximum federal aid. Here's what I'd recommend doing immediately: 1) Submit your FAFSA to ALL schools you're considering, not just your top choices, 2) Research each school's "net price calculator" on their websites using your SAI - this will give you estimates of your actual costs, 3) Apply for any school-specific scholarships that don't require separate applications, and 4) Don't assume expensive private schools are out of reach - some have huge endowments and can actually be cheaper than public schools for students with your SAI. My daughter's final aid package was $2,000 MORE than the total cost of attendance at her school, meaning they actually paid her to attend! Keep your options open and apply broadly.

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Wow, that's incredible that your daughter actually got paid to attend! That gives me so much hope. I had no idea that some private schools could end up being cheaper than public ones for students with high financial need. I've been limiting myself to in-state public schools thinking they'd be the most affordable option. Your advice about using net price calculators is really smart - I'm going to do that for all the schools I'm interested in this weekend. The idea of applying broadly makes sense too, even if some schools seem out of reach initially. Thank you for sharing your daughter's success story - it's exactly the kind of real-world example I needed to hear!

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I'm new to this whole financial aid process and seeing everyone's responses has been so educational! My family is in a similar situation income-wise, and I was actually worried when I saw the negative number on my FAFSA thinking it meant something was wrong. It's such a relief to learn that a negative SAI is actually good news for aid eligibility. I'm definitely going to follow the advice here about reaching out to financial aid offices directly and using those net price calculators. The tip about state grants is something I hadn't even considered - I'll be looking into that right away. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and making this less intimidating for those of us just starting this journey!

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Carmen Ruiz

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Welcome to the financial aid journey, Nathaniel! I'm glad this conversation has been helpful for you too. It's totally normal to be confused by the negative SAI at first - I think most of us had that same reaction! One additional tip I'd suggest is to keep detailed records of all your communications with financial aid offices. Create a simple spreadsheet with school names, contact dates, who you spoke with, and what they told you about your aid eligibility. This becomes really valuable when comparing offers later. Also, don't hesitate to ask financial aid counselors to explain anything you don't understand - they're usually very patient and helpful, especially when they see families with high financial need like ours. You're starting this process at a great time, so you'll have plenty of opportunities to maximize your aid!

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Oliver Weber

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Just wanted to jump in with another perspective as someone who navigated this successfully a few years ago! My SAI was around -950 and I ended up with a fantastic aid package, but here's something that really helped me: I created a simple timeline with all the important deadlines for each school I applied to. Some schools have priority deadlines for institutional aid that are different from their FAFSA deadlines, and missing those can cost you thousands even with a great SAI. Also, when you do get your aid letters, don't be afraid to appeal if one school offers significantly more than another - many schools will match or come close to competing offers, especially for students with your level of financial need. The negative SAI puts you in a strong negotiating position! I actually got an extra $3,000 per year just by showing one school what their competitor offered. Best of luck - you're in a really good spot with that SAI!

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This is such valuable advice about the priority deadlines and appealing aid offers! I never would have thought about negotiating with schools or that they might match competing offers. The timeline idea is brilliant too - I can see how easy it would be to miss a crucial deadline and lose out on aid. Getting an extra $3,000 per year just by showing another school's offer is amazing! That really shows how much leverage students with negative SAIs can have. I'm definitely going to research all the specific deadlines for each school I'm applying to and create that timeline you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your success story - it's really encouraging to know that students in similar financial situations can navigate this process so effectively!

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Zainab Ali

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As someone who just went through this process with my own negative SAI, I wanted to add a few practical tips that really helped me maximize my aid! First, when you contact financial aid offices, ask specifically about their "work-study" programs - these can provide valuable income without affecting your aid eligibility like outside jobs might. Second, look into local scholarships from community organizations, credit unions, and businesses in your area - many go unclaimed because students focus only on national scholarships. Third, if you're considering community college for your first two years, make sure to research transfer agreements with four-year schools - you can often lock in the same aid package for when you transfer. Your negative SAI of -834 puts you in an excellent position, but these extra steps can help you squeeze every dollar out of the system. The financial aid officers I spoke with were actually impressed when students came prepared with specific questions about maximizing aid - it shows you're serious about making college affordable!

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Admin_Masters

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These are fantastic tips, Zainab! I especially appreciate the advice about work-study programs - I hadn't thought about how outside jobs might affect aid eligibility differently. The local scholarship suggestion is really smart too. I've been so focused on the big national ones that I completely overlooked community organizations. Do you happen to know if there are any good resources for finding those local opportunities, or is it mostly just a matter of calling around to different organizations? Also, the community college transfer route is interesting - did you find that schools were pretty transparent about honoring aid packages for transfer students? Thanks for all these practical strategies!

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Kayla Jacobson

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I'm just starting to navigate this whole process and seeing everyone's responses has been incredibly eye-opening! Like many others here, I initially panicked when I saw a negative number on my FAFSA, thinking something had gone wrong. It's such a relief to understand that a negative SAI actually indicates high financial need and better aid eligibility. My family's situation is similar to Brooklyn's - we're definitely in that lower income bracket with multiple kids thinking about college. Reading about everyone's success stories, especially hearing that some students actually got paid to attend or received aid packages that exceeded costs, gives me so much hope. I'm taking notes on all the advice here about state grants, net price calculators, work-study programs, and local scholarships. This community has made what seemed like an overwhelming process feel much more manageable. Thank you all for sharing your experiences and making this less scary for newcomers like me!

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Welcome to the community, Kayla! It's so great to see how supportive everyone has been in this thread. I was in your exact shoes not too long ago - that initial panic when seeing a negative SAI is totally normal! What really helped me was creating a simple action plan after reading through all this advice. I started with the net price calculators that others mentioned, then researched my state's grant programs, and finally reached out to a few financial aid offices directly. The work-study tip from Zainab was particularly valuable - I ended up getting a campus job that actually helped with my resume too. Don't hesitate to ask questions here as you go through the process - this community has been such a lifesaver for navigating all the confusing financial aid stuff. You're going to do great with your negative SAI!

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