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FAFSA SAI of 19077 - Are we only eligible for loans with this high number?

Just got our FAFSA results and our SAI (Student Aid Index) came back at 19077. My stomach dropped when I saw that number. I'm assuming this means we won't qualify for any need-based aid and our only options will be unsubsidized loans? My daughter got accepted to her top choice school (estimated cost $32k/year) but we definitely can't afford to pay that much out of pocket. My husband and I make about $98k combined but we have two other kids heading to college in the next 3 years. Does anyone know if there's any chance of grants or scholarships with an SAI this high? Or should we just start applying for Parent PLUS loans right away? I'm feeling so lost right now.

An SAI of 19077 doesn't necessarily mean you'll only get loans, though it does limit your federal grant options. Your daughter likely won't qualify for Pell Grants, but many schools have their own institutional aid that isn't solely based on your FAFSA SAI. Here's what you should do: 1. Wait for the full financial aid package from the school before assuming anything 2. Submit the CSS Profile if her school requires it (many private colleges use this for institutional aid) 3. Contact the financial aid office directly to explain your situation with multiple children attending college soon Many schools will adjust their institutional aid when multiple siblings will be in college, even if the FAFSA SAI doesn't fully reflect that yet. Don't jump straight to Parent PLUS loans until you see the complete offer.

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Thank you so much for this response! I didn't realize schools might offer their own aid beyond what FAFSA determines. We haven't received the CSS Profile yet - I'll check if her school requires it. Do you know if it costs money to submit that form?

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We had similar SAI (around 21k) and my son still got $7k in institutional grants from his college plus work-study. FAFSA is just one piece of the equation. Definitely call the financial aid office!!!!!

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That's encouraging to hear! Did you have to provide additional documentation to the school to get that institutional aid?

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The financial aid system is RIDICULOUS! How are families making under 100k supposed to pay 19k out of pocket?? That's 20% of your income! The whole system is designed to push people into debt. I bet your EFC last year was way lower before they changed to this new SAI formula. It's all a scam to make it seem like middle class families can afford more than they actually can. Sorry this happened to you.

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While the new SAI calculation did change some things, a family making $98k would have had a similar EFC in the previous system. The bigger issue is that federal methodology doesn't adequately account for regional cost of living differences or multiple children in college at once.

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hav u tried calling fafsa to see if there was maybe an error in the calc? sometimes they mess up numbers

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I tried calling the Federal Student Aid number a few times but kept getting disconnected after waiting for over an hour. So frustrating! I'll try again tomorrow morning.

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I know exactly what you're going through. I tried calling FSA for two weeks straight to get clarification on our SAI calculation and kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. Finally used this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that holds your place in line and calls you back when an agent is available. Saved me so much time and frustration! They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/TbC8dZQWYNQ Regarding your actual question - our SAI was 18500 and my son still qualified for subsidized loans and work-study, plus his school gave him a $12k merit scholarship that wasn't based on need. Definitely reach out to the financial aid office at your daughter's school!

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Thank you for the Claimyr tip! I'll check that out because the constant disconnections are driving me crazy. And that's good to know about the subsidized loans still being possible - I wasn't sure where the cutoff was. We're hoping for some merit aid too but haven't heard anything about that yet.

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Financial aid professional here. A few important points to note: 1. Your SAI of 19077 doesn't mean you'll pay exactly that amount. Each school has its own methodology for determining institutional aid. 2. When your other children enroll in college, you can submit a special circumstances form to have your SAI recalculated. This is called a Professional Judgment review. 3. The $32k cost of attendance likely includes room, board, books, etc. The actual tuition may be lower. 4. Subsidized loans are possible with your SAI, though Pell Grants are unlikely. 5. ALWAYS appeal your initial financial aid offer, especially with your specific situation of multiple future college students. Take a deep breath - you still have options beyond just Parent PLUS loans.

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This is incredibly helpful information! I didn't know about the Professional Judgment review. So should I wait until next year when my second child starts college to request that, or can I mention it now in an appeal letter?

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Wat does SAI even mean? Is that different from EFC? My kid is applying next year and I'm so confused by all these changes

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SAI (Student Aid Index) replaced EFC (Expected Family Contribution) starting with the 2024-2025 FAFSA. They're similar concepts - both are numbers that help schools determine your financial need - but SAI is calculated a bit differently. The new FAFSA also removed the sibling discount, which is why the original poster is concerned about having multiple kids in college.

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omg i just realized I mixed up SAI and COA in my last comment 🤦‍♀️ long day lol. but seriously tho check with each individual school about their institutional aid!! My son's bill ended up being half of what I expected based on our FAFSA results

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Thanks for clarifying! And that's so good to hear about your son's actual costs. Gives me some hope!

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Don't forget to look at outside scholarships too! My daughter got $3k from our local credit union and $2k from her dad's employer. Every bit helps when you're stuck in that middle-income trap where the govt thinks you can afford more than you actually can.

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That's a great idea! I'll have my daughter start applying for outside scholarships right away. My employer has a small scholarship program too that I completely forgot about.

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To answer your follow-up question: You should mention your future college students in any financial aid appeal you make now, but the official Professional Judgment review will have the most impact once they're actually enrolled. Still, schools may consider this information even now, especially if you can document that the other children will definitely be attending college soon (like if they're high school juniors/seniors). One more tip: If your daughter has strong academic credentials, look into schools that offer generous merit aid. Some less-competitive private schools often provide substantial discounts to attract strong students, regardless of financial need.

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Thank you so much for the additional advice! She does have a 3.8 GPA and strong test scores, so maybe we should look into some additional schools with good merit aid. I hadn't considered that angle enough.

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I'm in a very similar situation - SAI of 18,500 with twins starting college next year. What I've learned from going through this process is that the SAI is really just the starting point for financial aid conversations, not the final word. A few things that helped us: - Many schools will still offer work-study even with higher SAIs - Look into state grant programs - some have higher income limits than federal aid - Consider community college for gen eds if the costs become unmanageable (my neighbor's daughter did 2 years CC then transferred and saved over $40k) The anxiety is real when you see that number, but don't panic yet. Wait to see what the actual financial aid packages look like from her schools. And definitely have her apply to a few "safety" schools that offer good merit aid - sometimes they'll offer more money to attract students who might otherwise go elsewhere. You've got this! The system is frustrating but there are usually more options than it initially appears.

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This is such helpful advice, thank you! I hadn't thought about state grant programs - I'll definitely look into what's available in our state. The community college route is something we've briefly discussed but I know my daughter really has her heart set on the traditional 4-year experience. Maybe we could compromise with CC for summer courses to reduce credits needed? And you're absolutely right about having safety schools with good merit aid - we probably got too focused on her dream school and didn't cast a wide enough net. Thanks for the encouragement!

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I completely understand that sinking feeling when you see a higher SAI than expected! I went through something similar last year with my oldest. A few additional thoughts that might help: 1. Don't overlook state schools - many have excellent programs at much lower costs, and some offer automatic merit scholarships based on GPA/test scores regardless of need. 2. If your daughter is considering any particular majors, look into field-specific scholarships. STEM fields, teaching, healthcare, etc. often have dedicated funding sources. 3. Some schools have "middle-income" assistance programs specifically for families like yours who don't qualify for need-based aid but can't afford full pay either. 4. Consider having your daughter take a gap year to work and save money, or to apply to additional schools with better merit aid. I know it's not ideal, but it could save thousands in the long run. The multiple kids in college situation is definitely tough with the new FAFSA changes, but as others have mentioned, schools can still make adjustments. Hang in there - you'll figure out a path that works for your family!

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