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Will taking out a 50k investment property loan during FAFSA application affect SAI calculation?

I own a rental property that needs about $50k in renovations (new roof, HVAC system, bathroom remodel). I'm planning to take out a home equity loan to cover these expenses, but I'm worried about the timing with my kid's FAFSA application. If we get approved for the loan before submitting the FAFSA, will that extra $50k sitting in our checking account count as assets and mess up our SAI calculation? Should we wait until after submitting the FAFSA to take out the loan? Or would it be better to get the loan now and immediately spend it on the renovations so it doesn't show up as cash assets? I've heard horror stories about people's expected family contributions skyrocketing due to temporary cash influxes. Anyone have experience with investment property loans and FAFSA timing?

To address your follow-up question about loan approval vs. disbursement: The FAFSA only asks about current assets at the time of filing. So if you have loan approval but the funds haven't been disbursed to your account yet, those funds wouldn't count as assets. However, be careful with the timing because verification requests from schools can come later, and they may ask for updated bank statements. My recommendation would be to submit your FAFSA as early as possible (October 1), then arrange for your loan to be approved and disbursed after that date.

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This is so helpful, thank you! I think we'll go with this approach - submit FAFSA on October 1st and then take out the loan afterward. I appreciate all the advice everyone has shared here!

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Just wanted to add another perspective as someone who went through this exact situation two years ago. We had a similar renovation loan for our rental property and made the mistake of taking it out right before filing FAFSA. It bumped our SAI up by about $2,500, which cost us nearly that much in lost Pell Grant eligibility. What we learned for the following year: we set up automatic payments to contractors and suppliers so the money never actually sat in our personal accounts. We had the bank disburse the loan funds directly to the roofing company and HVAC contractor. This way, the cash never showed up as our assets on the FAFSA snapshot date. Also, keep detailed records of all renovation expenses. Some schools will consider professional judgment appeals if you can demonstrate that the money was already committed to necessary property maintenance expenses, though success varies by school. One last tip: if you do end up with the cash in your account when filing, consider prepaying some other legitimate expenses (property insurance, property taxes, etc.) to reduce the cash balance before your FAFSA snapshot date.

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14% Sallie Mae loan for aviation degree - predatory or normal FAFSA gap financing?

Just finished going through private loan options after FAFSA only offered my stepdaughter $5k/year for her Aviation program. We applied with Sallie Mae yesterday to cover the remaining costs for her ATP (Air Transport Pilot) degree which totals about $125k for two years. Her mom co-signed with an 800 credit score, but Sallie Mae still gave us a 14% interest rate! The initial range they showed was 3%-18%, so they put us toward the high end despite excellent credit. When we ran the numbers, it came to $67k borrowed per year, with repayments around $1,300/month for 10 years after graduation. That's $3,000/month total and over $220k in repayments for a $134k loan! This feels borderline predatory to me, but maybe this is just how private student loans work when FAFSA doesn't cover much? Has anyone else dealt with massive gaps between FAFSA and program costs? Any alternatives to Sallie Mae with more reasonable rates?

Thank you for this! She's actually near a United hub, so I'll have her look into their cadet program immediately. Even if it's competitive, it's worth trying for. These industry-specific options are exactly what we needed to hear about.

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As someone new to navigating student loans, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea there could be such huge differences between lenders or that Parent PLUS loans might actually be better than private options. The 14% rate from Sallie Mae does seem excessive, especially with an 800 credit score co-signer. I'm bookmarking all these suggestions about credit unions, loan aggregators like Credible, and airline cadet programs. It's scary how easy it would be to just accept the first offer without shopping around. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this is exactly the kind of real-world advice that's so hard to find elsewhere!

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FAFSA 'in review' since February but 'last updated' date changed to March - what's happening?

I submitted our FAFSA application on February 12th and it's been sitting 'in review' ever since. Today I logged in to check the status (it's been over 6 weeks!) and noticed something weird - the 'last updated' date now shows March 20th, but we haven't touched or modified ANYTHING since submitting in February. Has this happened to anyone else? Does this mean they're actually reviewing it now or is there some glitch? I'm getting really worried about missing financial aid deadlines for my daughter's first year of college. The school needs her SAI score by April 15th!

UPDATE: I took everyone's advice and 1) contacted the school's financial aid office, who said they're being flexible with deadlines this year, and 2) finally got through to FSA by calling right when they opened. The agent confirmed my application is in active review, no issues flagged, and said I should see the SAI calculation within 7-10 business days! Thank you all for the help and reassurance.

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That's great news! So glad you were able to get some clarity. The 7-10 business day timeline sounds about right based on what I've been seeing with other applications. Make sure to check both your email and the studentaid.gov portal regularly.

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nice! crossing fingers for a good sai number for your kid!

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As a newcomer here, I just want to say how helpful this thread has been! I'm in a similar situation - submitted my FAFSA in early February and it's been "in review" with changing dates. Reading all your experiences makes me feel so much better about what's happening. The explanation from the financial aid advisor was especially helpful. I'm going to follow Sean's lead and contact my school's financial aid office tomorrow. It's reassuring to know that schools are being flexible with deadlines this year because of all the FAFSA processing delays. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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FAFSA form showing as 'not submitted' but college received wrong year - how to fix?

I'm at my wits end with this FAFSA situation! My daughter is starting at Rhode Island School of Design this September, and we submitted her FAFSA back in December when the 2024-25 application opened. We got an email saying it was processed successfully, but now when we log into StudentAid.gov, there's NO record of our submission! It's like it vanished! Here's where it gets even more confusing - Pratt Institute (one of her backup schools) emailed saying they received her FAFSA and are working on her package. When I called them to verify, they said they have her 2023-24 FAFSA, NOT the 2024-25 one we need! I've called the Federal Student Aid number 5 times and get disconnected every single time. One time I actually got through to someone who said my daughter should have received a correction email in February (she never did), and suggested a weird workaround of starting a new application which should redirect us to the existing one. I tried that and got a glimpse of the SAR but couldn't access it, and when my daughter tried the same trick after school, it just started a completely fresh application! Are we seriously going to have to redo this entire process from scratch? Orientation is in 4 months and we have NO financial aid package to work with. How long does it take to get an SAI score if we have to start over now? Does anyone know how to retrieve a "lost" FAFSA that the system says doesn't exist but a college somehow received as the wrong year?

I'm new to this community but unfortunately not new to FAFSA frustrations! Reading through all these responses, it sounds like you have several good options to try before starting completely over. I'd recommend trying the Claimyr service that Fiona mentioned first - if an agent can manually locate and push through your existing application, that would save you from missing the priority deadline. If that doesn't work, definitely call RISD's financial aid office directly before resubmitting. Many schools are being flexible with deadlines this year given all the system issues, and they might be able to work with you on the timing. Document everything - dates you called, who you spoke with, reference numbers if they give you any. The fact that Pratt received your 2023-24 FAFSA is actually useful information - it proves you did submit something successfully, just the wrong year somehow got processed. That might help when explaining the situation to financial aid offices. Good luck! This whole FAFSA rollout has been such a mess, but it sounds like you're being persistent and that's what it takes this year.

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Welcome to the community and thank you for the thoughtful advice! You're absolutely right that having proof Pratt received *something* from us is valuable documentation. I hadn't thought of it that way - it shows we did successfully submit, just somehow the wrong year got processed. I'm going to try the Claimyr route first thing tomorrow morning, and if that doesn't work, I'll call RISD before doing anything else. It's reassuring to know other schools are being flexible with deadlines given all these technical issues. I really appreciate you taking the time to lay out such a clear action plan!

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As someone who just went through a similar nightmare with my twin daughters' FAFSAs, I wanted to share what finally worked for us. We had the exact same issue - submitted in December, got confirmation emails, then complete radio silence from the system showing no record. After weeks of frustration, I discovered that creating a paper trail is crucial. I sent a certified letter to Federal Student Aid (830 First Street NE, Washington, DC 20002) documenting our submission date, confirmation numbers, and the technical issues we encountered. Include screenshots of any confirmations you received and print out that glimpse of the SAR you mentioned seeing. Within 10 business days of sending that letter, we received a callback from FSA with our daughters' applications magically "found" and processed. Apparently there's a whole department that handles these technical glitches, but you have to formally document the issue to get escalated to them. Also, definitely reach out to your state's Department of Education - many states have FAFSA hotlines that can advocate on your behalf with federal aid offices. Rhode Island's higher ed department might be able to help push things through faster than going through federal channels alone. The paper trail approach might take a bit longer than resubmitting, but it preserves your original December submission date which could be important for priority deadlines. Worth trying before starting completely over!

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I'm curious about this too! The certified letter approach sounds really promising, but I'm worried about timing. Since we're already in late March and my daughter needs to make her college decision by May 1st, I'm wondering if we should pursue multiple approaches simultaneously - the letter, the Claimyr service, AND possibly preparing a backup new FAFSA submission just in case. @af9141880afe, when you went through this process, did you feel like you had enough time buffer, or was it cutting things close with your daughters' decision deadlines?

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This certified letter strategy sounds like exactly what we need! I'm going to start putting together all our documentation tonight. Quick question - did you include copies of bank statements or tax documents with your letter, or just focus on the FAFSA submission evidence? Also, when you said "confirmation numbers" - we got an email saying it was processed successfully but I don't think it had a specific confirmation number. Would the email itself be sufficient documentation, or should I be looking for something more specific? Really appreciate you sharing this approach - it feels like the first concrete solution I've heard that addresses the root problem instead of just working around it!

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Do I need to include new spouse's income on FAFSA if we married in 2024 after tax year 2023?

Just got remarried this spring (2024) and I'm totally confused about how to handle my FAFSA application for my two kids. Since the new FAFSA uses 2023's tax info, and I wasn't married then, do I still need to include my new husband's income? He's not financially contributing to my children's education at all, and I'm not helping with his two kids' college expenses either. We're keeping our finances pretty separate in that regard. Has anyone dealt with this specific situation? The FAFSA instructions are so confusing about this remarriage timing situation!

Thank you everyone for the helpful information! I've decided to: 1) File the FAFSA as required with my husband's information included, 2) Prepare a detailed financial statement showing our separate arrangements, and 3) Appeal to each school's financial aid office with documentation of our situation. I'm not optimistic but at least I have a plan now. This forum has been so much more helpful than the FSA website!

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Good luck with your appeals process! I'd suggest also documenting any child support payments (or lack thereof) from your ex-spouse, as this can sometimes help demonstrate your actual financial situation versus what the FAFSA formula assumes. Some schools are more flexible than others with professional judgment, so don't get discouraged if the first school you appeal to doesn't budge much. Also, make sure to submit your appeals early in the process - financial aid offices typically have more flexibility with institutional funds earlier in the year before their budgets are depleted.

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