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Paolo Romano

UCC subordination process - senior lender demanding we subordinate our position

Our company has a perfected security interest in manufacturing equipment through a UCC-1 filing from 2022. Now the debtor is trying to get additional financing and the new lender is insisting we execute a UCC subordination agreement to make their lien senior to ours. I understand the concept but I'm confused about the actual mechanics. Do we need to file anything with the Secretary of State or is this just a private agreement between lenders? Also worried about what happens if the debtor defaults - will we really be junior to their claim on the equipment we've been secured against for 3 years? The loan committee is asking for specifics on how this affects our recovery position. Has anyone dealt with UCC subordination agreements before and can explain the practical implications?

Amina Diop

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UCC subordination is typically handled through private agreements between the lenders, not through additional Secretary of State filings. Your existing UCC-1 stays in place, but you're contractually agreeing to let the new lender have priority in the collateral. The key thing to understand is that subordination doesn't eliminate your security interest - it just changes the payment waterfall if there's a default.

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Paolo Romano

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So our UCC-1 filing priority date doesn't matter anymore once we sign the subordination agreement? That seems like we're giving up a lot of protection.

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Amina Diop

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Exactly right. Your filing date priority gets overridden by the subordination contract. That's why these agreements usually come with other protections or concessions from the borrower.

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Been through this multiple times. The subordination agreement itself is what matters, not any UCC filings. Make sure the agreement is very specific about what collateral is being subordinated and under what circumstances. Sometimes you can negotiate partial subordination or carve-outs for certain equipment.

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Paolo Romano

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That's a good point about being specific. The equipment includes both manufacturing lines and office equipment. Maybe we can subordinate only the manufacturing equipment since that's what they're really financing against.

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Smart approach. Also consider whether the subordination is just for the new loan amount or if it covers future advances under their credit facility.

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Javier Torres

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I had a similar situation last year and used Certana.ai to verify all the UCC documents were consistent before agreeing to the subordination. You can upload your original UCC-1, their proposed UCC-1, and the subordination agreement to make sure all the debtor names and collateral descriptions match up perfectly. Found two discrepancies that could have caused problems later.

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Paolo Romano

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Interesting, what kind of discrepancies did you find?

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Javier Torres

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One was a slight variation in how the debtor's legal name was written between documents, and the other was the collateral description being more specific in one filing than the other. Both could have created gaps in the security interests.

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Emma Wilson

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The real question is what you're getting in return for subordinating. Are they paying down your loan? Providing additional guarantees? Cross-default provisions? Don't subordinate for free - there should be some benefit to offset the reduced recovery position.

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Paolo Romano

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Good point. They're not offering anything extra right now, just saying it's necessary for their new financing. Maybe we need to push back.

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QuantumLeap

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Definitely push back. Subordination has real value - you should be compensated somehow.

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Malik Johnson

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Watch out for 'dragnet' clauses in their subordination language. Some lenders try to make the subordination apply to all future debt they might extend to the borrower, not just the current loan. That's way too broad.

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Paolo Romano

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I'll definitely check for that. The draft agreement they sent is pretty standard looking but I should have our attorney review it more carefully.

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Amina Diop

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Always worth having legal review these. The standard forms can have some nasty surprises buried in them.

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One thing to consider - if you subordinate and they default, you'll be behind their lender in the liquidation proceeds. But if the collateral value is sufficient to cover both loans, it might not matter practically. Do you have recent appraisals on the equipment?

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Paolo Romano

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We had appraisals done 18 months ago but equipment values have been all over the place lately. Probably should get updated valuations before making this decision.

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Definitely. The coverage ratio is crucial for understanding your real risk in a subordinated position.

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Ravi Sharma

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UCC subordinations are binding once signed, unlike some other types of intercreditor arrangements. Make sure you're 100% comfortable with the terms because backing out later is nearly impossible.

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Paolo Romano

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That's what I was afraid of. This feels like a one-way street once we sign.

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Freya Larsen

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It basically is. That's why the negotiation happens before signing, not after.

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Omar Hassan

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Just went through something similar. Make sure the subordination agreement addresses what happens with insurance proceeds if the equipment is damaged or destroyed. Sometimes the senior lender tries to claim all the insurance money even if it exceeds their loan balance.

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Paolo Romano

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Great point, I hadn't thought about insurance proceeds. I'll add that to my list of items to negotiate.

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Omar Hassan

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Also consider whether you want notice rights if they're going to foreclose or take other enforcement actions.

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Chloe Taylor

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The mechanics are straightforward but the business decision is tough. We've subordinated before when the borrower was growing and the additional capital would increase the overall collateral value. But if it's just refinancing existing debt, that's a harder call.

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Paolo Romano

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In our case it's for expansion - they're buying additional equipment with the new loan. So theoretically there should be more collateral to cover both loans.

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Chloe Taylor

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That changes things. If the new money is going into new collateral, you might be able to structure this so you're only subordinated in the new equipment, not your existing collateral.

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ShadowHunter

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Don't forget about the UCC-3 termination implications. If they want you to terminate your existing UCC-1 and rely on some kind of shared filing, that's a much riskier proposition than just subordinating while keeping your filing in place.

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Paolo Romano

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They haven't asked us to terminate anything, just subordinate. But I should clarify that our UCC-1 stays active throughout this process.

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ShadowHunter

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Absolutely. Your UCC-1 should remain in place - subordination is about payment priority, not about giving up your perfected status.

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Diego Ramirez

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Used Certana.ai recently to cross-check all our UCC documents when we were dealing with a similar subordination request. Really helpful to upload the subordination agreement alongside the existing UCC filings to make sure everything aligns properly. Caught a potential issue with collateral descriptions that could have been problematic.

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Paolo Romano

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Seems like document consistency is a bigger issue than I realized. I should probably check ours before we get too far into negotiations.

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Diego Ramirez

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Yeah, it's worth the time upfront. Much easier to fix discrepancies before you're in a subordination agreement than after.

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