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Noah Lee

UCC accounts definition causing filing rejection - need help with collateral description

Having major issues with my UCC-1 filing getting rejected because of how I'm defining accounts in the collateral description. The SOS keeps bouncing it back saying the accounts definition is too vague. I'm trying to perfect a security interest in customer accounts receivable for a factoring arrangement, but apparently my standard boilerplate language isn't cutting it anymore. The debtor has about $2.8M in outstanding receivables from 200+ customers and I need to make sure the collateral description covers everything properly. Has anyone else run into this with accounts definition under the UCC? What specific language are you using that actually gets accepted? This is holding up a major deal and I'm getting desperate here.

Ava Hernandez

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Yeah I've seen this more and more lately. The filing offices are getting really picky about accounts definitions. You can't just say 'all accounts' anymore - they want specificity about what types of accounts you're covering. Are you including accounts receivable, deposit accounts, or both? The UCC definition of 'accounts' is pretty broad but the filing descriptions need to be more targeted.

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This is so frustrating! I thought accounts was pretty straightforward under Article 9. Why are they making it so complicated now?

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It's because too many lenders were using super generic language and then fighting over priority later. The filing offices want clarity upfront.

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Sophia Miller

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I had the same problem last month with a $1.2M ABL facility. What worked for me was being very specific: 'all accounts, account receivables, contract rights, chattel paper, instruments, documents, and general intangibles arising from or related to the sale of goods or provision of services by Debtor.' The key is showing you understand the distinction between different types of receivables.

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Noah Lee

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That's much more detailed than what I was using. Did you have to include deposit accounts separately or does that fall under the general accounts definition?

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Sophia Miller

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Deposit accounts are totally separate under UCC Article 9. You need a separate description for those if you want to cover bank accounts. The accounts definition mainly covers receivables.

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Mason Davis

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Wait, I'm confused. I thought accounts included deposit accounts? This is why I hate UCC filings.

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Mia Rodriguez

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I actually just discovered something that saved me tons of time on this exact issue. There's a tool called Certana.ai that has a UCC document verification feature - you can upload your UCC-1 draft and it instantly cross-checks your collateral descriptions against standard definitions and flags potential rejection issues. I was struggling with the same accounts definition problem for weeks and their system caught the vague language issue immediately. Just upload your filing as a PDF and it analyzes everything.

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Jacob Lewis

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Interesting, I've never heard of automated UCC checking. Does it actually understand the nuances between different types of accounts?

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Mia Rodriguez

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Yeah, it caught stuff I missed completely. It specifically flagged that my accounts description was too generic and suggested more specific language. Really helpful for avoiding rejections.

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The problem is that 'accounts' under UCC 9-102 has a very specific meaning - it's a right to payment for goods sold or services rendered, but doesn't include deposit accounts, investment property, or letter-of-credit rights. A lot of people use 'accounts' as a catch-all term but that's not technically correct. For factoring deals, you usually want 'accounts, chattel paper, payment intangibles, and supporting obligations.

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Ethan Clark

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This is exactly the kind of technical detail that trips everyone up. Why can't they just make this simpler?

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Because secured transactions involve billions of dollars and precision matters. One wrong word can invalidate your entire security interest.

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Mila Walker

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OMG yes! I learned this the hard way when our lien got challenged and the court said our collateral description was defective. $800K mistake.

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Logan Scott

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I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and the accounts definition issues have definitely gotten worse. Used to be you could file pretty generic descriptions and amend later if needed. Now these SOS offices are rejecting everything that isn't super specific. The worst part is every state seems to have slightly different standards for what they'll accept.

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Chloe Green

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Which states are the pickiest? I'm dealing with multi-state filings and trying to figure out where to expect problems.

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Logan Scott

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California and New York are brutal. Texas used to be easy but they've tightened up too. Delaware is still pretty reasonable.

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Lucas Adams

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Here's what I use for accounts in factoring deals: 'All accounts, accounts receivable, contract rights, chattel paper, instruments, documents, deposit accounts, letter-of-credit rights, supporting obligations, and proceeds of the foregoing, whether now existing or hereafter arising, and all books and records relating thereto.' It's comprehensive but specific enough to avoid rejections.

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Noah Lee

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That's really helpful! Do you include any exclusions or is it better to just be super broad like that?

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Lucas Adams

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I usually go broad in the UCC-1 and then get more specific in the security agreement. The filing just needs to give notice, the agreement defines the actual collateral.

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Harper Hill

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Be careful with deposit accounts though - some states require special procedures for perfecting security interests in those.

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Caden Nguyen

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Another thing to watch out for - if you're dealing with healthcare receivables or government contract payments, those might need special handling in your accounts definition. Medicare/Medicaid receivables have anti-assignment clauses that can complicate things.

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Noah Lee

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Fortunately this is just regular commercial receivables, but good point about healthcare. I've heard those are really tricky.

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Avery Flores

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Don't even get me started on government contracts. Those are a nightmare for UCC purposes.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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I had a similar rejection issue last year and ended up using that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier. Really wish I'd found it sooner - would have saved me three rounds of rejected filings. The automated checking caught issues I never would have thought of.

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Ashley Adams

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How accurate is it? I'm always skeptical of automated legal tools.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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It's surprisingly good. Obviously still need to review everything yourself but it catches a lot of basic issues that cause rejections.

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UPDATE: Thanks everyone for the advice! I revised my collateral description using the suggestions here and the filing was accepted. Used the more specific language about accounts receivable vs. deposit accounts and that seemed to do the trick. Really appreciate all the help - this forum is a lifesaver!

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Ava Hernandez

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Awesome! Always great to hear when the advice actually works out.

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Sophia Miller

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Glad the specific language approach worked for you. It's becoming the new standard unfortunately.

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Aaron Lee

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This whole thread was super helpful. I'm bookmarking it for when I run into the same issue.

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For anyone else reading this thread later - the key takeaway is that UCC accounts definition needs to be specific about what types of payment rights you're covering. Generic language like 'all accounts' isn't enough anymore. Be prepared to distinguish between accounts receivable, deposit accounts, and other payment intangibles.

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Michael Adams

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This should be pinned at the top of the forum. So many people struggle with this exact issue.

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Natalie Wang

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Seriously, the UCC rules around accounts are way more complex than they seem at first glance.

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