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Sean Murphy

UCC 2022 amendments causing confusion with debtor name requirements?

I'm dealing with some headaches trying to understand how the UCC 2022 amendments affect our filing procedures, especially around debtor name requirements. We have a portfolio of equipment loans where we filed UCC-1s back in 2019-2020, and now I'm getting mixed signals from our compliance team about whether we need to amend existing filings to comply with the new standards. The amendments seem to have tightened up the debtor name matching rules, but I can't find clear guidance on retroactive compliance. Has anyone else run into this? We're looking at potentially hundreds of filings that might need UCC-3 amendments, and the cost implications are significant. Our loan committee is pushing for clarity before we make any moves, but the regulatory guidance feels vague at best.

Zara Khan

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The 2022 amendments definitely changed the game on debtor name requirements, but you're not required to go back and amend existing filings that were compliant when filed. The new rules apply to filings made after the effective date. However, if you're doing any UCC-3 amendments or continuations on those old filings, then you need to make sure the debtor names meet the current standards.

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Luca Ferrari

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This is exactly what I was hoping to hear! So we're grandfathered in on the old filings as long as we don't touch them?

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Zara Khan

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Correct - existing filings remain valid under the rules that were in place when they were filed. But any new activity triggers current compliance requirements.

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Nia Davis

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Wait, I thought the amendments had a phase-in period where you had to update everything within 18 months? Or am I thinking of a different change?

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Zara Khan

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You might be thinking of the fixture filing changes, which did have a transition period. The debtor name amendments didn't include a mandatory update requirement for existing filings.

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Nia Davis

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Ah okay, I was definitely confusing the two. Thanks for clarifying!

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I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool to check our existing UCC-1s against the new debtor name standards. You can upload your Charter documents and UCC-1s, and it instantly flags any potential name mismatches that might cause issues if you need to file amendments later. Really helpful for planning purposes without having to manually review hundreds of documents.

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Sean Murphy

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That sounds incredibly useful! How accurate is it at catching the subtle name variations that trip up the filing systems?

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It's been spot-on in my experience. Caught several cases where we had 'Inc.' vs 'Incorporated' mismatches that would have caused rejection headaches down the road.

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QuantumQueen

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I've heard good things about that tool. Does it work with bulk uploads or do you have to do them one at a time?

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Aisha Rahman

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THE 2022 AMENDMENTS ARE A NIGHTMARE! We had three UCC-3 amendments rejected last month because of name variations that would have been fine under the old rules. The SOS offices are being super strict now and there's no consistency between states on how they interpret the new requirements.

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Zara Khan

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Which states gave you trouble? Some have been more aggressive in enforcement than others.

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Aisha Rahman

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Ohio and Michigan were the worst. Pennsylvania was actually pretty reasonable about it.

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Ethan Wilson

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Quick question - do the amendments affect continuation filings differently than regular amendments? I've got about 50 continuations coming due in Q2 and want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

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Zara Khan

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Continuations are treated the same as amendments under the new rules. If your original debtor names don't meet current standards, you'll need to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct the name before or with your continuation.

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Ethan Wilson

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That's what I was afraid of. Looks like I've got some work ahead of me.

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Definitely worth running those through a verification tool before you start filing. Could save you a lot of rejection hassles.

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Yuki Sato

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I spent three weeks last fall going through our entire UCC portfolio manually to identify potential name issues. Found about 15% had variations that could cause problems under the new amendments. Most were minor things like punctuation differences or entity type abbreviations.

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Sean Murphy

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15% seems high! Were these mostly older filings or spread across different time periods?

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Yuki Sato

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Mostly 2018-2020 filings. The older ones had more issues because our naming conventions were less standardized back then.

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Carmen Flores

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Has anyone dealt with the new requirements for multiple debtor names on a single filing? The amendments seem to have tightened that up too but I can't find good examples.

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Zara Khan

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The multiple debtor rules haven't changed much, but the name accuracy requirements apply to each debtor individually. So if you have three debtors on a UCC-1, all three names need to meet the current standards.

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Carmen Flores

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That makes sense. I was worried there might be some interaction between the names that I was missing.

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Andre Dubois

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Anyone else notice that some SOS websites haven't updated their help documentation to reflect the 2022 amendments? I keep finding outdated guidance that contradicts the new requirements.

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Aisha Rahman

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YES! It's so frustrating. You end up having to call their help desk and half the time they don't know the new rules either.

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Zara Khan

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The UCC filing guide updates have been slow to roll out. I usually check the actual statute text rather than relying on the SOS summaries.

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CyberSamurai

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We ended up hiring outside counsel to review our UCC compliance after the 2022 amendments. Worth every penny for the peace of mind, especially with our loan committee breathing down our necks about regulatory compliance.

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Sean Murphy

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What did they end up recommending? Full portfolio review or just prospective compliance?

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CyberSamurai

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They recommended a risk-based approach - full review of our largest exposures and spot-checking the rest. Made sense from a cost-benefit perspective.

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I'm dealing with a similar situation but with fixture filings. The 2022 amendments seem to have some specific language about real estate descriptions that I'm trying to parse. Anyone have experience with that aspect?

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Zara Khan

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Fixture filings did get some updates in the amendments, particularly around the real estate description requirements. The key is making sure your property descriptions are sufficient to identify the real estate without being overly broad.

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That's helpful. I've been erring on the side of more detail rather than less, but wasn't sure if that was the right approach.

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The Certana tool I mentioned earlier also checks fixture filing descriptions against common rejection reasons. Might be worth a look for your situation.

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Jamal Carter

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Just wanted to follow up on this thread - I ended up doing a targeted review of our highest-risk filings based on the advice here. Found 12 that needed UCC-3 amendments to bring the debtor names into compliance. Better to be proactive than get surprised during a continuation or amendment down the road. Thanks everyone for the insights!

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Zara Khan

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Smart approach! Proactive compliance is always better than reactive fire-fighting.

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Sean Murphy

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Glad this thread was helpful. I think I'm going to take a similar targeted approach with our portfolio.

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