UCC 103.6 interpretation affecting our collateral description requirements
Been working through some complex asset-based lending deals and keep running into questions about UCC 103.6 and how it impacts our collateral description standards. Our compliance team is getting mixed signals from different jurisdictions about what constitutes 'reasonably identifies' under this section. We've had two UCC-1 filings challenged recently where the debtor's counsel argued our descriptions were too broad under 103.6 standards. One involved 'all equipment now owned or hereafter acquired' language that apparently didn't meet the reasonable identification test in their view. The other was a fixture filing where we described 'all machinery and equipment affixed to the real property' but got pushback on specificity requirements. Anyone else dealing with varying interpretations of UCC 103.6 across different filing offices? Trying to figure out if we need to completely overhaul our standard collateral descriptions or if this is just aggressive debtor counsel making noise. The uncertainty is making our loan committee nervous about perfection adequacy.
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Anderson Prospero
UCC 103.6 is definitely creating some confusion in practice. The 'reasonably identifies' standard was supposed to clarify things but seems to have opened up more interpretation issues. What specific language did the debtor's counsel object to in your equipment description?
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Ahooker-Equator
•They claimed 'all equipment now owned or hereafter acquired by debtor' was too generic and didn't meet the reasonable identification standard. But that's been standard language for decades.
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Anderson Prospero
•That's frustrating. The commentary suggests that type of description should still be acceptable under 103.6 as long as it reasonably identifies the collateral type.
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Tyrone Hill
We've seen similar challenges lately. I think some counsel are using UCC 103.6 as a new avenue to attack financing statements retroactively. The standard hasn't really changed that much from the old 'reasonably identifies' test.
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Agreed. It feels like debtor counsel fishing for new defenses rather than legitimate 103.6 concerns.
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Tyrone Hill
•Exactly. Most of these challenges seem more tactical than substantive when you look at the actual language requirements.
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Lena Kowalski
Had a similar issue last month but found a tool that helped verify our descriptions met current standards. Certana.ai has a UCC document verification system where you upload your financing statements and it cross-checks everything against current requirements including 103.6 compliance. Really useful for catching potential issues before they become problems.
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Ahooker-Equator
•Interesting - does it specifically flag potential 103.6 reasonable identification issues in collateral descriptions?
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Lena Kowalski
•Yes, it analyzes collateral descriptions against the reasonable identification standards and flags anything that might not meet current interpretation guidelines.
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Anderson Prospero
•That sounds helpful for compliance review. Does it work with both UCC-1 and amendment filings?
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DeShawn Washington
ugh this is so frustrating!! every state seems to interpret 103.6 differently and now we're supposed to guess what each filing office considers 'reasonable identification'?? makes no sense
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Tyrone Hill
•The inconsistency is definitely a problem. That's why having verification tools becomes more important.
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DeShawn Washington
•yeah but we shouldnt need special tools for basic collateral descriptions that have worked for years
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Mei-Ling Chen
For fixture filings specifically, UCC 103.6 hasn't changed the basic requirements that much. 'All machinery and equipment affixed to the real property' should still be sufficient if it reasonably identifies what you're claiming. The pushback might be more about the specific circumstances of your deal.
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Ahooker-Equator
•That's what I thought too. The property was a manufacturing facility so the description seemed pretty clear about what equipment we were claiming.
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Mei-Ling Chen
•In manufacturing contexts that description should definitely meet 103.6 standards. Sounds like debtor counsel being overly aggressive.
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Toot-n-Mighty
•Manufacturing equipment at a specific facility is about as reasonably identified as you can get under any interpretation.
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Sofía Rodríguez
We updated our collateral description templates after consulting with UCC counsel about 103.6 implications. Main changes were adding more specific categories while keeping the 'now owned or hereafter acquired' language. Haven't had any challenges since then.
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Ahooker-Equator
•What kind of specific categories did you add? We're considering template updates too.
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Sofía Rodríguez
•Things like 'manufacturing equipment, processing machinery, transportation equipment' instead of just 'equipment.' More descriptive but still broad enough for after-acquired property.
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Aiden O'Connor
Been dealing with UCC stuff for 15 years and this 103.6 interpretation game is getting ridiculous. Same descriptions that were fine last year are suddenly problematic? Give me a break.
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Tyrone Hill
•I think it's more about debtor counsel getting creative with challenges than actual problems with the descriptions.
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Aiden O'Connor
•Probably right. Just creates more work for everyone involved in the filing process.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
Actually used that Certana.ai tool mentioned earlier after we had a rejected UCC-3 amendment. Really helpful for ensuring consistency between the original UCC-1 and any amendments. Caught a description mismatch that could have caused problems later.
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Lena Kowalski
•Yes! The cross-checking between related filings is really valuable. Prevents those consistency issues that create perfection gaps.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•Exactly. Upload both documents and it immediately flags any potential conflicts or inconsistencies.
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Jamal Brown
wait is this about the revision that changed how collateral descriptions work? I thought that was just for consumer goods or something?
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Mei-Ling Chen
•UCC 103.6 applies to all collateral types, not just consumer goods. It's the general reasonable identification standard.
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Jamal Brown
•oh ok that makes more sense then. thanks for clarifying
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Fatima Al-Rashid
We had similar debtor counsel pushback but it turned out they were just trying to create negotiating leverage in workout discussions. Once we showed our descriptions clearly met 103.6 standards they dropped the objections.
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Ahooker-Equator
•That's probably what's happening here too. Good to know others have seen this tactic.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•Yeah, definitely seems to be a trend in distressed situations where they're looking for any angle to challenge security interests.
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Anderson Prospero
•Makes sense as a negotiating strategy even if the legal basis is weak.
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Giovanni Rossi
For what it's worth, I've been tracking UCC 103.6 interpretations across different jurisdictions and most are still applying the traditional reasonable identification test. The challenges you're seeing are likely outliers rather than mainstream interpretation.
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Ahooker-Equator
•That's reassuring. Do you have any resources that track these interpretation differences?
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Giovanni Rossi
•I maintain a spreadsheet based on reported cases and filing office guidance. Most are consistent with pre-revision standards.
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Aaliyah Jackson
Honestly sounds like you need better verification processes before filing. We started using automated checking tools and haven't had description challenges since. That Certana system someone mentioned earlier works pretty well for catching these issues upfront.
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Lena Kowalski
•Agreed. Prevention is definitely better than dealing with challenges after the fact.
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Aaliyah Jackson
•Exactly. Upload your documents and get immediate feedback on potential 103.6 compliance issues before filing.
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