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FAFSA asking for investment net worth - do employer stocks and retirement investments count?

I'm stuck on the FAFSA section about "Current Net Worth of Investments" and don't want to mess this up. My husband received stock from his previous employer that we're saving for retirement. Do we need to include this value? What about our other stock investments in our portfolio? The instructions are so confusing... does anyone know exactly what counts as an "investment" for FAFSA purposes? I've heard some retirement accounts are excluded but I'm not sure if employer stock qualifies for the exception. Help!

Yes, you need to report stocks on the FAFSA, even if they came from an employer. The basic rule is that any investments that aren't in qualified retirement accounts need to be reported. So: - Regular stocks/bonds/mutual funds: MUST be reported - Employer stock not in a retirement plan: MUST be reported - 401(k), 403(b), traditional and Roth IRAs: DO NOT report these The key question is whether your husband's employer stock is held inside a qualified retirement account (like a 401k) or if it's just regular stock he was given that you're planning to use for retirement someday. If it's the latter, you need to report it.

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Thanks for the info! The stocks were given to him as bonuses over the years and aren't in any special retirement account, just a regular brokerage account. So it sounds like we definitely need to include those. What about our house? Is that considered an investment too?

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i had the same question last yr when filling out my kids fafsa!! so confusing right?? ended up reporting my husbands company stock but NOT our 401ks. make sure u dont include ur primary home value tho, thats def not supposed to be there

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Oh that's good to know about the house! The instructions were so confusing I wasn't sure. Did including the stocks affect your aid amount a lot?

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The FAFSA instructions are specific about what counts as investments. You MUST report: - Stocks, bonds, mutual funds not in retirement accounts - Money market funds and CDs - Real estate (except your primary home) - 529 and Coverdell accounts - Commodities You do NOT report: - Your primary residence - Qualified retirement plans (401k, 403b, IRAs, pensions) - Life insurance policies - UGMA/UTMA accounts for which you're the custodian (those are reported by the student) For your husband's employer stock, you need to determine if it's in a qualified retirement account. If it's just regular stock held in a brokerage account that you're "saving for retirement," that doesn't make it a retirement account - you must report its current value.

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Wait so we have to report our vacation property too???!!! Nobody told me that when I filled out my son's FAFSA last month... did I mess everything up??? Can I go back and fix it or is it too late?????

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report everything except your house and retirement accts. anything else & they'll make you verify and thats a huge headache trust me

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My daughter works in financial aid office at her university and she says people get this wrong ALL THE TIME. You absolutely have to include non-retirement stocks. And guess what happens if you don't? They'll flag you for verification and you'll spend months trying to get it corrected!!

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That's exactly what I'm worried about! I don't want to get flagged for verification. We'll definitely include the stocks then.

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This is one of the most common FAFSA questions! Here's the simple version: 1. If the stock is inside a qualified retirement account (401k, IRA, etc) → DO NOT REPORT 2. If the stock is in a regular brokerage account, even if you mentally label it "for retirement" → YOU MUST REPORT Employer stock is just like any other stock. What matters is the account type it's held in, not where it came from. Also, when reporting investments, use the current market value (what you could sell it for today) minus any penalties or fees you'd pay for selling early.

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Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! We'll definitely report it then since it's in a regular brokerage account.

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btw has anyone tried calling the fafsa helpline about this stuff?? i tried 5 times last month and never got thru!!!

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Just to add a clarification - when reporting these investments on FAFSA, they're specifically looking at the net worth as of the day you complete the application. So if your husband's employer stock is worth $10,000 today, that's what you report, even if it was worth more or less when he received it. Also, if these investments are producing income (dividends, capital gains distributions), don't forget that this income should be reported in the income section of the FAFSA as well. The SAI formula counts both your assets and your income.

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That's a great point about reporting the current value. And I hadn't even thought about the dividends, but we did include those on our income taxes so hopefully that's covered!

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I filled out 3 FAFSAs for my kids and got TOTALLY different aid offers even though I answered everything the same way!!! The whole system feels rigged to me. They just want to see how much money they can squeeze out of families. Whether you report those stocks or not probably won't make a huge difference unless they're worth a ton.

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Actually, investments can significantly impact your SAI calculation. The FAFSA protection allowance for assets is quite low, and after that, parent assets are assessed at 5.64%. So for every $10,000 in reportable investments, you could see your expected contribution increase by about $564. Definitely worth reporting correctly.

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Thanks everyone for the helpful answers! I'm going to report all of our stocks, including my husband's employer stock, since they're held in regular brokerage accounts. I'll make sure not to include our primary home or our actual retirement accounts (401k and IRAs). I feel much more confident about completing this section now!

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Great plan! And remember to use the net worth (current value minus any debt against the investments) as of the day you submit the FAFSA. Good luck with the rest of the application!

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Just wanted to add that if you have any employer stock options (like ISOs or NQSOs) that haven't been exercised yet, those typically don't need to be reported on the FAFSA since they don't have a current market value until you actually exercise them. Only report the stocks you actually own and could sell today. Also, keep good records of the values you report - if you get selected for verification, you'll need to provide statements showing those asset values as of your FAFSA completion date.

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